I do live in a Hicktown. I was a bartender in NY in the early 90s and in 98 moved to Kinsale Cork and bartended their for 4 yrs. Oh and Bushmills was NOT licensed to distill in 1608Thats marketing Bullshit. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. . The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . I was wondering this myself. ! Idiot!! stupid fucks In response, Guzzi This bill . As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. Protestant - to 'protest'. Im coming to celebrate Repeal Da, Fall book drop. We were up near Bushmills this past summer during our Ireland vacation (on our way from Belfast to The Causeway) and our Tipperary-based guide recommended not stopping there due to the companys historic treatment of Catholics. As a Scotsman living in Scotland, Id say I f youre worried about the religion of your whiskey then perhaps you shouldnt be drinking. Eamonn, I thought all that was in the past and your country moved on? It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. 1. Over and out. [15], More recently, in 2015, Powers Signature Release won a gold medal in the category Irish Single Pot Still Whiskey at the Irish Whiskey Awards. Wonderful thread. I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even He said, I guess they will have to be giving up the Guiness as well? Im not surprised this thread is still going strong. But until 2005 BOTH distilleries were owned by Pernod-Ricard. Powers is good and inexpensive but 2 Gingers is better then them all and reasonably priced!!! What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? A few years ago during a trip to Ireland we had dinner at the home of some relatives. OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. Believe in the Trinity of God. It is Bushmills that supplies single malt (The Old Bushmills Distillery is the only one of the three in Ireland that distills only triple distilled single malt whiskey, while the Midleton Distillery produces grain & pure potstill spirit and Cooley produces double distilled single malt, grain & potstill), as well as doing the bottling for Jameson, Powers & Paddys (All from Midleton, along with Red Breast, Greenspot & Tullamore Dew). The big difference between the two whiskies has nothing to do with religion, which is silly and, in some respects, rather ignorant. But thats merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork Catholic country. There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. FoinahYou nailed it. , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. After all, thats what the Jacobites were all about. Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . 17-18 years old found the love of my lifea catholic girl. Jamesons one-time MD (CEO in the USA) was Andrew Jameson. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. Never tried Redbreast for some reason. Memories. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License. But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. Religion and booze dont go well together so its a subject that perhaps should be avoided. These are the books and tools I use every single day to make drinks at home and behind the bar. In particular the 1951 offering of which Ive never tasted its superior. Cant wait to find out. The Thirty Years' War was a series of wars in Central Europe between 1618 and 1648. Assertive and complex, with lots of development and seemingly infinite dimension. Is Misty protestant? [9] They were the first Dublin distillery to do so, and one of the first in the world. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Beaumont Funny, I thought of addressing that as I was wrapping up the post, but then thought, Nah, the chuckleheads who read this website arent smart enough to draw that conclusion. Guess I was wrong. Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. @Darby )Gill: What a load of nonsense! Arthur Guinness was definitely Protestant And a Unionist. He was adamantly against Home Rule as well. My growing up yearsnot virulently anti catholic just plain anti-catholic. Spent a crap of $$$ too so we could compare them all side by side. Patrick Irish whiskey tends to be a lighter style of whiskey than Scotch or American whiskies, but that doesnt mean its necessarily lower in quality. Finish Though Bushmills is the #2 Irish whiskey in the U.S., Tullamore Dew is #2 Irish whiskey (after Jameson) worldwide, so not too surprising that you would see it most places. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? There will always be a few zealots who do, but from my knowledge, both Bushmills and Jamesons are enjoyed by people of both faiths. Clean, fresh. In: St. Patrick's Day. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. Though it is good to remember that Bushmills & Jameson were selling about even worldwide up until the mid/late 1990s, before Pernod decided to put all of its eggs in the Jameson basket. For the record, despite the Scottish reformation, that doesnt mean Jamieson was a Proddy. Not what religion you think a whiskey holds. Who do I believe, the man who raised me, or some drunk I met in a bar? The whole time I was in Dublin (or even while I was Belfast) I never once heard anyone say anything about any whiskey having a religion. Why even Arthur Guinness was a prod. Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. The cheap Evan Williams Black Label at half the price (in the USA)has more taste and more of a kick. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. However, its all moot now as the French reap the profits in the end , Jameson, Bushmills, Tullemore, Red Breast, Powers. William Riley, well said, man. Terrific reading. @Allen: Thats just my point. However, the only brand of Irish I ever saw in the Balkans was Tullamore Dew. Colum Egan (Master Distiller of Bushmills) is himself a Catholic. Connemara Cask Strength is a real treat, and Greenore Single Grain is likewise enjoyable. In side-by-side STEEL CAGES!! However, it is generally accepted that the catagory, as a whole, is spelt that way as well. Turned out not to be such a controversy. and IRELAND vs SCOTLAND!! Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. Period. Palate Brands! Jameson is always a great go-to, easy and smooth. Hats off to all the others. Im redbreast girl too, but recently been sipping on the Bushmills 10, thought now Im interested to try Powers Gold Label! Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. Hence, Bushmills is Protestant whiskey, which means by contrast Jameson, down in Cork County, must be Catholic. Happy St Pattys Day. Not enough time to read through comments. Whoever owns Paddys also owns one of these bigger brands and wont export to the US because they know they would cannibalize their own market share. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. The full like of Bushmills (and a couple of other Irish whiskeys) will be available for sampling at Whiskies of the World on March 27th. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. As of late, its been my favorite it has rich barley notes that leave my palate craving more. What is the lore and legend and reputation of Tullamore Dew? Whiskey is Catholic. And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. Jameson has distilled fine Irish malt which has been then sold to Bushmills to use as a blend all of the way through the most controversial of times of Irish English relations to current. nant Protestant-oriented movement. Powers gold label is absolute shit. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. No matter where it is produced. 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. hint of linseed. Will never forgive parents. I must have been misinformed. As an American, am I being disloyal to Scotland when I drink Jamesons? Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. Have a good one. In a TALL glass.one shot of Tullamore Dew, rendered in most branding as Tullamore D.E.W. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. The Plantation of Ulster is when the King of England gave lands away in Northern Ireland to the English that originally belonged to the Irish. If I was the kind of person who blogwhored, I would http://tinyurl.com/d92kdl [2] Currently rumored to be building a new distillery, Well, I already put my two cents in well up the thread, but here is some topical good news for the distillery in the North2013 Spirit of the Year: Bushmills http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Having just had this discussion with my buddy who was bribed with a bottle of Bush to express his love of it via twitter (which he refused, good man that he is) I have to say the following-. The three also exchange used casks, when need be, if they have extra. I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. I agree with Robert McHardy above. Not sure what Guinness has to do with this, but your claim goes against everything we were taught about him, but maybe history is just whitewashed for us Yanks. red breast is my favorite single pot still whisky!! There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. I completely understand what Matt is saying regarding religious intolerence. This was a long term plan but theyve brought it forward by about 8-10 years. # x27 ; protest & # x27 ; Rangers ( hoik-phew ) Celtic. 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